
Ever feel like fun and free are mutually exclusive? Sarah Von Bargen is here to show you that’s totally not the case. In this episode of System for Everything, she joins us to unpack how we can spend our time, money, and energy more intentionally so we live a life we love without becoming broke or exhausted.
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We often equate price tag with value: if it didn’t cost anything, maybe it’s less worthy, less fun. That’s a mindset trap we should look beyond. According to Sarah Von Bargen, if your free experiences have felt dull it might be because you’re not looking in the right places or not going with the right people.
Our culture trains us to see money as a gateway to pleasure: buy the ticket, book the trip, pay for the experience. The real joy you’re seeking isn’t behind a paywall, instead it’s behind intention. It’s about choosing experiences over expenses and meaning over monetary value.
One of the biggest mindset shifts Sarah encourages you to make is to believe that your hometown can be a playground. Sarah recommends picking a list of tourist things in your city, then scheduling one each month. That outer-accountability moves you from I should to I will.
Think about it: how many attractions in your city have you never visited simply because they’re always available? Sarah calls out this behavior using a Gretchen Rubin quote: “Things that can be done at any time are often done at no time.”
The fix is to create a short list of museums, parks, weird attractions, and neighborhood events. Put one in your calendar per month, invite a friens, and suddenly, you’re not a passive local. Welcome to your city, intentional adventurer.
When you don’t feel like you have to get your money’s worth, you relax and let go of perfection. Sarah shared how she and her husband tried a $0 Tai-Chi class five blocks from home. It was in a cold basement with a tiny turnout, but they laughed and loved it because the stakes were low. The fun came from connection and newness, not from “was this worth the $75 dinner?”
There’s a kind of magic that happens when joy isn’t forced. Free fun lets you enjoy the moment, not evaluate it.
When we challenge the assumption that fun must come with a price tag, we open ourselves to a whole new category of joy. By building small habits and reframing our expectations, we can cultivate a lifestyle that’s not only more sustainable but often more satisfying. Free fun isn’t a consolation prize—it’s an invitation to reconnect with curiosity, community, and creativity.
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Julie: Welcome back to the System for Everything podcast, today’s system tip. Wanna feel better about your spending habits? Invite your friends over for a potluck and call it a salon. Boom, your Frugal and French. Today’s guest is Sarah Von, a longtime online writer, marketing consultant and coach. She explores ideas around spending our time, money, and energy on purpose and how to build.
The life we love that doesn’t make us broke or exhausted. And full disclosure, I have been a fan of Sarah’s for well over a decade. I have read her writing, I have used her app, I have taken her courses when brainstorming this podcast, Sarah was so a must guess for me and I can’t believe she agreed to come on.
Thank you for being here, Sarah.
Sarah: Oh my goodness, my absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for having me.
Julie: All right everyone. We’re gonna start with the system reboot as we always do A quick reset. To start our episode with humor and humanity. Sarah, what would be in your emergency dopamine kit?
Sarah: Oh, gosh.
Julie: Just a really good playlist.
I would say either a really good playlist from Spotify or a wedge of manchego cheese. Oh, okay. What is one opinion you have that sounds unhinged, but is a hundred percent true for you?
Sarah: Oh my gosh. Oh, that when you wake up and you can’t get back to sleep, you just get outta bed no matter what time it is.
Like, I got up at four this morning, not on purpose, not because, not because I set the alarm, but I woke up. I couldn’t get back to sleep, and so I’ve just been up since four.
Julie: I could never,
Sarah: I don’t,
Julie: I think unless I, I think unless I’m taking a flight, I couldn’t do
Sarah: it. Yeah. I, I don’t do it on purpose, but after, you know, I, I wanna, I don’t wanna like wake my husband up with flipping around and I mean, honestly, if I wake up after three 30 in the morning and I can’t back, get back to sleep, I just get up and start my day.
Julie: Okay. I love that. What is your go-to? I have nothing in the house dinner.
Sarah: Oh gosh. Uh, popcorn with nutritional yeast that I eat out of the mixing bowl with a spoon. ’cause I don’t wanna get my hands dirty.
Julie: I love
Sarah: that.
Julie: And you guys, you have to follow Sarah. She is like the queen of like elderly, rich aunt energy is, is that what you said you’re going for lately?
Sarah: It, yeah. Call, I call it weird. Rich aunt. Weird, rich, weird aunt energy. Weird rich aunt is my final. Is my, is my goal, is my goal in life is to be a weird, rich aunt.
Julie: I love that. And she is also the queen of like, okay, we’re eating everything in our fridge. We’re getting every last drop out of it. And I’m, I’m so bad at that, and I’ve learned tips from you.
Sarah: Oh, yes, yes. Here’s, here’s how you make risotto with weird broccoli stalks. Yes,
Julie: yes. All right everyone. You’ve met the personality. Now meet the powerhouse. Today we’re pulling back the curtain on how Sarah turns everyday life into an adventure, and why your next favorite memory might be totally free.
Here’s my conversation with Sarah on the system for finding free fun. Okay, I wanna start. Let’s bust the myth that I think a lot of people carry, which is that free stuff is boring. So what would you say to people who believe that?
Sarah: I guess I would say I. I under. I understand. I get it. Um, I would say that if your experience with free stuff B is that it’s boring, is that A, you are potentially not looking in the right places.
B, potentially you’re not going to the right stuff. C Um, maybe you’re not going to the right stuff with the right people.
Julie: Ooh. Yes. Why do you think we’ve kind of linked price tags to pleasure? When do you think fun became transactional?
Sarah: Oh gosh, that’s a really good question. Um, well, I can’t. I can’t speak for other people, but I know like when I was, you know, in my late teens, early twenties when I was in that like ramen for dinner budget range, which I think a lot of us were, um, that was a point in time where pretty much everybody I knew was much more.
And also this was like, you know, 2004, so like a very different place sort of politically. Emotionally, psychologically, everyone, you know, had a different mindset then. But like everybody I knew, we were like, let’s take our beer to the overlook and have a picnic. Or like, let’s go to music and movies in the park.
Like everybody. I knew who was 23 was doing this kind of stuff. And the thing about like do filling your life and your calendar with things that are budget friendly, is that quite frankly, it requires more legwork on your part.
Julie: Yeah.
Sarah: And so when you have less bandwidth. As your job becomes more demanding, if you have kids, if you have aging parents, if you, you know, own a home and now you have to mow the lawn and like figure out how somebody’s gonna fix the fence, you just have less bandwidth.
And so it is much easier to be like, let’s go to the movie, which is $12 per person plus $7 popcorn, than it is to like find something that is legitimately enjoyable and get yourself there. So I think it’s, it’s sort of a byproduct of aging and our lives becoming more complicated. Also just once you have money, it’s, I mean, lifestyle creep is very, very real.
Yeah. And so like when you get in the habit of like, well, let’s see what movie is playing at a MC, or like, let’s see, you know, what bands are coming to First Ave? Or let’s book, you know, an Airbnb for a weekend away instead of like trying to find a cheaper option. Once you get in that habit, it’s really hard to go back to the slightly more complicated, slightly more labor intense approach of finding.
Things that are, um, more accessible financially.
Julie: Have you always been really good at making your own fun or was that something you had to learn? Oh,
Sarah: yes. Oh yes, yes. I’ve always been really good at it. Mostly because, so my hometown has 2000 people in one stoplight. Um, oh my gosh. And then I went to college in a town that had, I believe, 4,000 people, four or 5,000 people.
And of that, 2000 of them were college students. And then after that I moved to Minneapolis, you know, which is a major metropolitan area. But I was, you know, working, uh, a job straight out of college. You know, I had a ton of school debt. I wasn’t making a lot of money, so I even, even though like I was, I was earning money, I still had to be very, a very conscientious spender.
And now, I mean, I’m married, I have a good income, my husband has a good income. But the habit has just stuck. And I mean now I, I am, I am more willing to, like, there are certain things I’m a lot more willing to pay for. Like I will fly direct whenever possible. Yes, I’ll choose a flight that leaves after 10:00 AM whenever possible.
You know, there are things that I’m very, uh, I will buy. Expensive. Birkenstocks expensive jeans, expensive, you know, like expensive Adidas, I will, my bras are like 80 bucks. You know, there are things that I will be very happy to spend money on. Oh, those
Julie: are worth it.
Sarah: But simultaneously I’m like, uh, excuse me.
Do not compost that broccoli stock. We will be eating it. So, so I do still have some very frugal habits mixed in there with things that, for me personally, are absolutely worth the money.
Julie: I think that one of your most admirable traits is how you really treat your own city like a vacation destination. How can someone that is not used to that start building that muscle?
I mean, especially if they think they’ve seen it all before. Because I live in a huge city. I live in Dallas. Mm-hmm. If somebody comes from out of state to visit me, I’m like, Ugh. There’s like, I guess like these four things you can do and like everyone does them and I don’t wanna do them again. Mm-hmm. And it’s like, wait a minute, there’s like a million things to do.
Sarah: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I would say, so one of the things is just acknowledging that, um. For, for most of us, I believe Gretchen Rubin is the one who says something that can be done at any time is often done at no time. And so I think for all of us, there are huge tourist attractions in our own cities. Yeah.
That were like, well, I can go there anytime. So we, we’ve either A, never gone, or B, we’ve gone like once.
Julie: I have never been to the sixth Floor museum. The JFK was shot near my house Museum.
Sarah: Sure. Yes, yes. Like I, I mean, I’m not really a mall girly, but the Mall of America, which is the largely largest mall in the country Yeah.
Is like 20 minutes from my house. There’s an amusement park in the middle of it, and I’ve been like twice. You know, there, there’re all sorts of things like f Scott Fitzgerald grew up. And lived in the neighborhood that I currently live in. My gosh. I walked, oh, past, past his childhood home on the way to my co-working space, and have I ever done any of the many f Scott Fitzgerald related things in my city?
I have not. I mean, I’ve read The Great Gatsby in eighth grade, just like everybody else, but like,
Julie: yeah,
Sarah: there are tours, there are events. This was like last year, or even this year is the 100th anniversary of the Great Gatsby. Did I do anything about it? No. So I think, I think part of it just like comes with acknowledging like it’s very common for everybody no matter where you live to, to miss out on that stuff.
And so it might start with like literally just going on TripAdvisor. Oh, and printing it out. I mean, for me, I love a checklist. For me, I love like a printed thing that’s like top 10 things to see in Dallas, top 10 things to see in the Twin Cities. And like I lo I love to schedule it into my cal, like literally schedule it into Google calendar.
And um, as you probably know, most of us need outer accountability. Oh yeah. And so a good way to do it is to like, let’s say once a month, you’re gonna go do some tourist thing in your own city. Then you invite a friend to do it and you put it in the calendar and you invite them. So that might be like, I might email my friend Jordan, who is also a former English major and be like, do you want to do the f Scott Fitzgerald walking tour of St.
Paul on September 15th? And she says, yes, and I buy tickets for us, and I put it in the calendar and I invite her, and now we’re doing it. As opposed to just like, oh, that’s something that I should do at some point.
Julie: I love that. And I. I’m gonna do it. I’m gonna go to the six floor museum guys.
Sarah: Yeah. Yes.
I’m
Julie: gonna go.
Yeah, because I mean, I hear it’s really good.
Sarah: Yes, yes. And
Julie: like I find the stories fascinating, but I just haven’t gone.
Sarah: Yeah. Well, so I would say just acknowledging it to yourself, finding a literal list, putting it in your calendar. Um, but I would say also part of it is just like getting in the habit of like proactively.
Like finding interesting things to do and not just like defaulting to scrolling or Netflix or house projects or like when we have free time, we go to the A MC down the street, or when we have free time, we go get a beer at the same. Bar that’s at the end of the block, or when we have time, we invite the same three friends over to barbecue in our backyard.
All of those things are great and lovely, but I think it starts with making an active decision that you are going to spend a little bit of time seeking out interesting things to do. Then creating that outer accountability, whether that’s buying the ticket or putting it in your calendar or inviting a friend to go with you.
So now you don’t wanna disappoint the friend by flaking out.
Julie: That’s, that’s really good advice. ’cause I was gonna say, how do you balance like that, discovering the new things versus the comfort of those old routines and favorite spots? And I know mm-hmm. You know, one of my group of girlfriends here, we were just like, oh my gosh, we miss each other.
We need a dinner. And we’re like, oh yeah, let’s go to the place we always go. And I’m gonna see if they wanna go somewhere different.
Sarah: Yeah. And the thing is like, I think there’s space for both, right? And and yeah. The other thing I would say is
Julie: there’s always room for Olive Garden.
Sarah: Yeah. Yes, yes. And I mean, sometimes, and depending on the situation, right?
Like if I am trying to do something with a friend who has two school-aged children that both have activities. What I’m gonna do is be like, hello, can we go to the restaurant that’s a block from your house? Or like,
Julie: yeah,
Sarah: can I come to your house and I’ll bring takeout. But if I want to hang out with the child-free unmarried friend who works from home.
Then all we can do anything, we can do like a day trip that’s five hours long because they don’t have to like be home to pick up the kids. So I think it’s also about like knowing who is the right audience for your various adventures.
Julie: Yeah.
Sarah: Um, yeah, I think, I think that that helps as well.
Julie: I think sometimes the, the free things actually end up bringing you more joy.
’cause the stakes are
Sarah: Oh
yes,
Julie: lower. Oh
Sarah: my
Julie: gosh. You’re like, oh my God, I spent. $500 going to Disney World, I have to enjoy. Yes. Every single freaking second of this.
Sarah: Yes.
Julie: So what have you noticed shifts in your mindset or sense of joy when you prioritize those free experiences?
Sarah: I would say just like exactly what you said, that the, it’s a lot more enjoyable because I’m not forcing myself to feel a certain way about it.
Like. So at my coworking space, they also have a bunch of like groups and classes that come free. As part of that, of the me that’s, and I have unlimited guest passes, so I’m always bringing my friends to just any random old thing. So one date night I brought my husband to a Tai Chi class at my coworking space.
There was only one other person there. Um, it was in the basement. It was cold. Uh, I, and I discovered that Tai Chi’s, not really for me, but we just thought it was funny. We were giggling, you know, to ourselves the entire time because we were so bad at it. And there were, you know, and we could just laugh it off because it was like five blocks from our house.
It cost us $0. Whereas if we had gone to a restaurant and spent $75 on a meal we didn’t like, or we went to go see a musician and we couldn’t find parking, and then they came on late and then they didn’t play the songs we wanted to hear, it would be really hard to like maintain a good attitude about that.
Yeah. But when it is cheap or free. It’s often just about like trying a new thing, connecting with the person that you’re with, exploring your city. So it’s much easier to have like a good attitude and a good sense of humor about it.
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Julie: I think also sometimes maybe we even connect differently with people when the shared experience doesn’t revolve around spending.
Sarah: Mm-hmm.
Julie: It could be like that deeper connection. I wanna talk about discovery. ’cause part, I mean, part of the challenge of this is not even knowing what is out there in your city.
Yeah. So, I mean, how do you actually find these things? Are you Googling or. Subscribing to newsletters or using apps or just like asking your friends?
Sarah: Um, well, okay, so I actually, I have a system. Okay. I love it. I’m not, I’m not sure if it’s a system so much as like a series of habits. Um, but so two places that are surprisingly really good sources are.
If you shop at a, like probably grocery stores have them, but I think more often, like corner delis or like co-ops, like grocery co-ops.
Julie: Mm-hmm.
Sarah: They have like a physical corkboard, like out in the entryway where people like push pin, little, little posters up. Just like school library too. Old
Julie: school.
Sarah: Yeah. So all of those places that have like physical corkboards, you would be amazed.
At the things that you find on there, like, oh, it’s free yoga in the park. Oh my. I found a completely free two hour discussion group about Rome reading romance novels as an act of resistance. Yes, put on by two graduate students at a local university and there were snacks and there were like 20 women there and we ate like fancy snacks and talked about romance novels and these two grad students like recommended all these great novels.
It was completely freed. They served tea and like fancy te cup. What? Yes, I, there’s, I found a. A community choir that exclusively sings like protest songs that gets together twice a month. Awesome, awesome. And it’s been going for like 25 years. It’s a bunch of old hippies. There’s like sunset drum circles, there’s, there’s, you know, dog yoga.
There’s so much stuff on these corkboards. And, you know, they’ve got the little like, tear off sheet. Yeah. It’s, it’s just, so that’s a really great place if you follow your city’s tourism board or their, um, better, not better business bureau, their civics, their civic organization. Mm-hmm. They. Pretty much every major city has a really solid, they should have a really solid Instagram presence.
Julie: Yeah.
Sarah: And like it is very common that on like the Monday of any given week, they will publish a reel that says, like, things happening in St. Paul this week. And it’s just like a list of all the stuff that’s happening. If you have a good, um, parks and rec board, their social media is really good to follow because they will.
There’s so many free programs that happen in parks, and the thing that you wanna do with all of these is when you follow them on social media. Either like the post or save the post or comment on the post because it will teach your algorithm that you wanna see that. And so then when you log in, you’re just getting served this content that just shows you all this free stuff without having to try.
Also, pretty much every city has influencers that specifically specialize in like things to do in your city, and it’s very often like. Sarah in Minnesota, it has some sort of obvious name. Yeah. And every city has like 20 people who do this, and
Julie: they’re always, always, yeah. We have a bunch of them in Dallas that are all like food based.
Sarah: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Julie: For like, so they’ll be like, this is like in a roundup of like coffee shops that are doing like really fun things with pumpkin flavors. ’cause it’s fall now.
Sarah: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Or you know, like. This great day trip from the Twin Cities or this thing that this state park has that you didn’t know about it.
Um, so those are all great. I’ve also found lots of really good stuff, um, in my little teeny tiny neighborhood newspaper, like I’m sure the big like daily newspaper, but like my actual neighborhood newspaper, which comes out every two weeks. Um, has lots of good stuff and it’s less overwhelming because it lists maybe like 15 things and I look at it once every two weeks as opposed to like reading, uh, the St.
Paul Pioneer press every single day and seeing like 47 things.
Julie: Yeah.
Sarah: Um, so that’s really good. And also on Facebook, if you go into the events. Um, you can also search by like your city and things happening this week, things you’re interested in, um, and find all sorts of interesting things there.
Julie: That’s awesome.
I’m gonna also tout a meetup. Oh yeah, the app, because my husband, that’s how he found the choir that he sings with.
Sarah: Oh, that’s so fun.
Julie: Yeah, and I mean, he probably could have like googled like choirs to audition for in Dallas, but. That was a place.
Sarah: Yeah.
Julie: Do you keep like a, a running list of everything you see?
Or like, are you like, okay, I gotta remember to do this next year? Or like, oh, I gotta do this, I gotta think about this. Or is it more spontaneous, just like, oh, what are we gonna do today?
Sarah: It’s, well, I, so what I do is every Sunday, so this is very nerdy and systems oriented.
Julie: I’m obsessed,
Sarah: but, so I. My life is led by my Google calendar.
Mm-hmm. And so I, and I’m self-employed, so I have to structure my time and so I lay out my days and my weeks in a pretty concrete way. And when. The, my self-directed work in my Google calendar is color coded purple stuff that involves other people, and I have to like be on time and be prepared is yellow and fun things that I’m gonna do are green and so I can look at a week at a glance and make for sure that there’s enough green enough that I’m doing fun stuff and that there’s not like three yellows stacked right on top of each other.
And so what I will do is on Sundays I make an effort to like look at my calendar for the coming week. And if there are no greens or if there’s like one green, then I will make an active effort to like find stuff to do that’s fun and then schedule that in. But usually what I do is if I see some fun, interesting thing pop up.
Within, no, I wouldn’t say like immediately, but like within reason, like if I get served something served like an Instagram ad for some sort of thing and I, and I know I want to do it and I want to do it with somebody, I would say I try, you know, usually within like. That day I have reached out to somebody and been like, do you wanna do this thing with me?
I don’t wanna like use up the brain energy remembering it for later, if that makes sense. Yeah. Like it’s just easier for me to be like, oh, I saw this native garden tour thing. I bet Maureen would like that. I’m gonna text her about it now, rather than like making a note to text more. It take, for me, it takes the same amount of energy to just do it in the moment.
Rather than like make a note to remind myself to do it. I will say that occasionally, like if there’s a recurring event that is really cool and maybe I missed it, um, that year, I will put a reminder in my calendar, you know, for like, like, so there is a Tulip festival. Iowa that I really want to go to. And so, and that happens in April.
And so I have a reminder set in my calendar for like late January to look into lodging for that tulip festival. So if there’s something really big and specific that I’m like, I wanna make for sure that I go to that thing. The next time it happens, I will put a reminder in my calendar for the next year to like find lodging or like buy tickets or whatever.
But that’s sort of how I navigate, like remembering it and, and making time for that kind of stuff.
Julie: I love that. Um, what advice would you give to someone listening who wants to try a no spend weekend, but feels very nervous about it or feels like they’ll be too restricted?
Sarah: Oh gosh. Well, I would say think about the things that you usually spend time on.
Then think about like how you can have a similar feeling at a lower price point. Because if what you really like, if, if, if money was no option and. You usually spend your time, you, you spend your money on your weekend on having like a really luxurious brunch out with your friends. Okay? Can you look at the ingredients that are currently in your home and find some recipes for, to make like a legitimately delicious and luxurious feeling brunch, and then invite some friends over, or if you usually.
You know, going go and get your nails done. And I mean, I’m not gonna lie, I get pedicures, doing my pedi, giving myself a pedicure does not have the same end result as getting it done professionally. Yeah. But it’s, it’s better than nothing, you know? So I think part of, or if like, you like to go to the movies and get like the $15 ticket at the fancy theater and spend like $25 on snacks.
Okay. How can you have a similar feeling at home? Because I think there’s a big difference between like. Flipping around on Netflix and being like, sure, this movie is fine. And then like watch half watching it while you’re on your phone versus being like, I like, so my husband and I are slowly working our way through all the l Alfred Hitchcock’s movies.
Julie: Ooh,
Sarah: okay. And so we will, we will be very like, okay, uh, we have decided that on Saturday night we are going to watch. We’re gonna watch the birds. Okay. Is there like a themed food? Like do we wanna make some sort of meal beforehand that like ties into that
Julie: fun, you
Sarah: know, or like a cocktail or something.
Let’s do like some light Wikipedia reading that doesn’t spoil it all, and then we’re gonna like watch it. In the living room, maybe with the good speaker on, you know, we’re gonna turn the lights down low, we’re not gonna have our phones in the room. Like that is a very different experience than just like watching some random movie that you happened upon while also scrolling on your phone.
Julie: I love that. That is, that is so great. Okay, Sarah, this has been awesome. Please tell everyone where they can find you online and how they can work with you.
Sarah: Oh, that’s wonderful. So I, um, probably the best place to find me in terms of like creating new content is on Substack. I published there. Weekly ish.
The, the, the plan was weekly. The last six weeks of my life have been pretty crazy. We went from having two full-time, uh, kids to sending them both to college within 10 days of each other. But now that I have a little more space, I plan to be publishing there more again, but So you can just search on Substack?
Um, yes and yes. And you can also find me on Instagram. I very rarely post to the grid, but I am on my stories pretty much. Every day. Um, so if you follow me at Yes and yes, blog on Instagram and watch my stories. You’ll see me there every day.
Julie: Yay. All right, everyone. Now that we have Philosophized about free joy, let’s get into the silly version of it.
I’m gonna do today’s shutdown is gonna be a fast five cheap thrills edition. All right, number one, peeling the plastic off of a new electronic device. I mean, is anything more
Sarah: satisfying? Mm. Mm-hmm.
Julie: Number two, stumbling upon a little free library. Number three, making a to-do list with things you’ve already done just so you can cross them off.
Number four, rewatching a nostalgic TV episode while folding laundry.
Sarah: Ooh, that’s a good one.
Julie: That’s gotta be, it’s my favorite episode of all time of parks and rec media blitz. That is my ultimate comfort Season three episode six, everyone. Ben Wyatt, human disaster number five. Getting into bed with clean sheets and freshly shaved eggs.
All right, that is it for this episode of the System for Everything. If this conversation made you laugh, think or start planning your own No Spend Weekend, I’d love for you to leave a review. It helps more people find the show and keeps the good systems coming and come. Tell me over on Dallas Girl, Friday on Instagram, what you’re planning to do this weekend.
Thanks for listening. See you next week.
