What if the key to transforming your city was simply showing up? For many of us, local politics and civic engagement can feel like a world reserved for career politicians, polished extroverts, or people with endless free time. But what if I told you that you could make a meaningful impact in your community without quitting your day job or becoming someone you’re not?
In this episode, I spoke with Laura Vola, former candidate for city council in Carrollton, Texas, about what it really looks like to get involved locally. Laura stepped up with zero political experience. She simply had a fierce belief in showing up for her community. Whether you’re thinking about running for office or just wondering what it means to engage more deeply, Laura’s story offers a roadmap that’s equal parts inspiring and incredibly practical.
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From Concerned Citizen to Candidate
Laura didn’t grow up dreaming of holding office. In fact, even when she did consider getting involved in her community, she planned to wait until the timing was “right.” But when a former city council member called and asked her to run, something shifted. She said yes, and that spontaneous decision launched her into a season of intense learning, growth, and transformation.
It wasn’t that she suddenly felt prepared, but instead, it was that she stopped waiting for perfection. That one phone call was a reminder that civic leadership doesn’t always begin with a master plan. Sometimes, it starts with an invitation and the courage to say yes.
The Nuts and Bolts: Running is Easier Than You Think
One of the biggest myths Laura busted during our conversation? The idea that running for local office is complex or exclusive. In her city, getting on the ballot came down to two options: collect 100 signatures or pay a $250 fee. That was it.
Of course, there was paperwork and deadlines. But Laura, a self-professed spreadsheet nerd, found comfort in the structure. What was harder? Asking people for money. Asking for help. Being visible in a way that felt personal and sometimes vulnerable.
“I’m used to asking for donations for nonprofits,” she told me. “But asking for support for myself? That felt so much harder.”
Building a System That Holds You Up
With a full-time job, two young kids, pets, a husband, and a campaign to run, Laura had to develop systems fast. Her behind-the-scenes setup wasn’t glamorous, but it was effective: shared calendars with her husband, iPhone reminders for everything from snack duty to phone banking, and deep reliance on her partner for bedtime routines and emotional support.
She also had the rare advantage of an understanding employer who gave her space to step into this civic chapter. The result? A logistical system that allowed her to stay grounded amid chaos.
“The only way I kept it together was with support. From my husband, from my job, from friends who stepped in to help.”
The Emotional Side of Civic Engagement
While logistics can be planned, mindset work is an entirely different beast. Laura talked openly about the mental and emotional toll of campaigning. There was the vulnerability of public speaking, the sting of criticism, and the ever-present imposter syndrome.
“I bombed my first candidate forum,” she admitted. “But I had to remind myself that I wasn’t doing this to be perfect. I was doing this to represent my community.”
Her therapist became a key part of her campaign team—not for strategy, but for survival. When negativity from other races bled into her orbit, Laura had to learn to draw boundaries and run her own race.
Shrinking to Fit? Not Anymore
Like many women, Laura found herself fighting the urge to shrink, to downplay her accomplishments, soften her tone, take up less space. Even with a resume stacked with leadership, advocacy, and business operations, she still had to remind herself she belonged.
“I teach my daughters to use their big girl voices,” she said. “But I realized I wasn’t doing that for myself. I was still trying to be likable, humble, and small.”
That disconnect was a wake-up call. Civic leadership doesn’t require perfection. It requires presence and sometimes the boldest thing we can do is show up unapologetically as ourselves.
You Don’t Have to Run to Make an Impact
Maybe you’re not ready to run or maybe you don’t want to. That’s okay. Laura stressed that there are countless ways to make a difference locally:
- Email your city council rep or mayor. They’ll respond more often than you think.
- Apply to join a local board or commission. From parks to zoning to libraries, there are openings everywhere.
- Volunteer for a campaign. Not just national ones. Your local school board or city council candidates need help, too.
- Write postcards, send texts, or make calls. These low-barrier actions add up fast.
- Explore programs like Citizens Government Academy. They’re a fantastic way to learn the nuts and bolts of how your city operates.
And if you’re a Democrat in Texas? Consider becoming a precinct chair. Laura mentioned the desperate need for these local volunteer roles and the power they hold in shaping our communities.
Campaigning Changes You (Even If You Don’t Win)
Laura didn’t take a break after the campaign ended. She dove deeper by applying to leadership programs, volunteering on city boards, continuing to stay visible. Campaigning, she said, changed the way she sees her city. It gave her access to people, ideas, and opportunities she never would’ve encountered otherwise.
“I was already involved before,” she said. “But this opened my eyes to a whole new level of impact.”
She still battles imposter syndrome. She still struggles with saying no. But she also knows the power of what she did. And what she represents.
Start Where You Are. Use What You Have.
The most powerful takeaway from Laura’s story is this: civic engagement isn’t about having the right background. It’s about caring enough to show up. Even if it’s awkward. Even if you feel like a beginner.
You don’t have to be an extrovert. You don’t have to be a policy expert. You just have to be curious, committed, and willing to try.
If Laura’s story lit a fire under you, start small. Send an email. Sign up for a board. Talk to a neighbor. Your community doesn’t need perfection. It needs people who give a damn.
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Julie: Welcome back to the System for Everything podcast. Today’s system tip. Wanna change your community? Start by Googling where your city council meets. Then reward yourself with a cookie that’s called Grassroots Balance. Today’s guest is Laura Volla, a dynamic and energetic mother of two, two daughters, two cats, and two dogs and a wife to her incredible husband, Brockett.
She is also someone who. Recently did something most of us say we could never do. She ran for local office. With a remarkable 13 year tenure as the director of operations at a family owned property management firm, and simultaneous engagement in the arts nonprofit sector for over 15 years. Laura brings a unique blend of skills to the table.
Laura is deeply involved in the Carrollton Texas community, regularly volunteering to teach her young children the importance of community engagement while also working to create a safe and vibrant environment for all families. If you’ve ever wondered how to get more involved in your community without selling your soul or burning out, this one’s for you.
Welcome Laura. Hello. Thank you so much for having me. Laura and I actually went to college together, um, though I was. Thinking about it as I was like preparing for this episode and I was like, did we ever do a show together? No, I don’t think we were ever
Laura: on stage together. No. No, we weren’t. I was also like funny.
I transferred in and then I left. Yeah. And so, but still it’s sad. Such a different context from right now. Yes. Like this moment, like it’s very, it’s very, because I feel myself like reverting back to like an 18-year-old. The second I see your face and I’m like, no, Laura.
Julie: I love it though. All right everyone, we are gonna start the way we always do with the system.
Reboot A quick reset to start our episode with some humor and humanity. All right, Laura, what is your go-to? I have absolutely nothing in the house dinner.
Laura: Oh. Um, we eat so much takeout. Um, but also right now, like my daughters really only want butter noodles and Parmesan. And not even like, like I try to do like shredded Parmesan and like, and they’re like, absolutely not.
It needs to be the graded, like from the green thing. Oh yeah. You know, and that is like it so. Noodles.
Julie: It’s,
Laura: it’s all
Julie: noodles. What is one local issue you feel weirdly passionate about? Ooh.
Laura: Um, do you know what this is actually like, controversial, which I realized Okay. Is really weird. Maybe I shouldn’t start off like with the controversial thing, do it.
Um, I’m a big fan of trap neuter, release for animals. Okay. Because we have a very large feral. Animal population and it really is useful to try and control animal populations. I don’t feel like that should be
Julie: controversial. I agree with
Laura: you.
Julie: You know, it’s oddly. All right. And finally, what is a pop culture moment that lives rent free in your head?
Laura: Ooh, it’s Brittany Bitch. Like, that’s all I can think of right now. Okay. Um. I don’t, is Brittany alone? That’s what I think of. Yeah, exactly. I know. Like it was like, that was such an intense moment to watch in real time. Yeah. And like be old enough, uh, for Yeah. I guess that like, do you remember like Brittany is like Pepsi interview?
Yeah. Like where she’s like, I actually drink this. And like, like as she doing that, I turned on her. I’m a coat girl. Yeah, I know. Me too. I’m not a Pepsi person. Brockett is because he’s a freak. Uh, no. I’m, I’m literally drinking Dr. Pepper though right now, I should say. So delicious. Mm.
Julie: All right, everyone. You have met the personality.
Now meet the powerhouse. Her journey to the city council ballot wasn’t backed by big money or decades of political experience. It was powered by frustration, hope, and probably a whole lot of spreadsheets. Here’s my conversation with Laura Volla on the system for getting involved in your community. All right, I wanna rewind to the moment you decided to run.
You work full-time, you’re a mom, you’re a wife, and you’re someone who’s already deeply involved within your community. But running for office is like a whole new. Level of visibility. Oh, for sure. And vulnerability. What made you say yes to this? Was there a specific moment or issue that pushed you from someone should do something to, I guess, that someone might be me.
Laura: Oh, that’s such a good way to put it. Because it really is like, man, somebody should really like do something here. Oh, no. Yeah, I, I think, I think it’s gonna be me mostly to also like show other folks like, Hey, if I could do this, you can absolutely do this. But no, it was something that we had kind of talked about before moving back to Texas.
I had met with some organizations, um, the National Democratic Training Committee run for something.org and that really kind of helped me try and figure out the timing of when I might run. And in fact, then I decided, okay, I’m not gonna run. I’m gonna wait so that, like, I’m not running against an incumbent and, you know, whatever else.
Yeah. And then on a like random Thursday, I got a phone call from a former council person and I, I, I, I don’t remember kind of how it came up, but it was essentially like, do you wanna run this cycle because you know your opponent will be unopposed? And I was like. That’s very weird. I had truly just decided I wasn’t going to, and as somebody who like chronically overthinks and in my mind, like I wanted to do all the right steps, you know, like there’s, there’s certain steps that you should take or I, or I feel like you should take, um, prior to running for office, and I hadn’t done all that yet, but there was something about.
Getting a phone call from an unknown number that was like, Hey, do you wanna do this? And somebody that you respect and like, and I talked to Brocken and I was like, I don’t know. Something about just diving in and not overthinking this and just kind of going with the momentum felt. Really. Right.
Julie: And so I did.
Most people have no, I mean, myself included, have no idea what the actual steps are to get on a ballot. Mm-hmm. So what did that process really look like from like paperwork and deadlines and figuring out who you needed on your side? I mean, were there any moments where you just thought like, wait, this is part of it.
Like, I have to do this.
Laura: Oh, absolutely. So I will say getting on the ballot and and running is actually so much easier than I think people realize it’s gonna be different for every city. Um, but Sure, yes, like two different ways. You could either get a hundred signatures, like a petition. Right. Okay. People like registered voters who are like, yeah, you run for office, so a hundred signatures.
Or you could pay. $250. Um, oh my gosh. And that’s it. Yeah. Like that’s it. Yeah. There’s a lot of, I think th there is a lot of paperwork that seems really daunting. I’m somebody who is like kind of into doing financial reporting and that kind of love. Me too. I know. We’re such nerd. I just love spreadsheets.
Yes. I, because they’re cool. I know. So that for me. What was was not quite as, as daunting. Um, what was significantly more difficult was asking people for money. For myself, I’m used to doing that for a nonprofit or well, really for a nonprofit. Not used to asking like, Hey, this is actually like for me. And it feels really icky and I hated it.
Um, oh, and then also asking for help. It’s a, it’s a very, very vulnerable space to be in, um, which. I think probably a lot of people can identify with not, not
Julie: liking that. Definitely. Yeah. All right. So you weren’t just running a campaign. I mean, you are also working full-time, you are parenting, you are a member of the PTA at your daughter’s school.
You are fostering animals, you’re trying to live a life. So what kind of systems helped you hold it all together? Behind the scenes? I mean, whether it was how you managed your calendar or structured your week or. Maybe delegated or outsourced anything. You know, I wanna hear what made those logistics even slightly more manageable.
Laura: Oh, um, yeah, no, I have, I have to have to-do lists like for sure. Truthfully, having a supportive partner. His was, was like the, the most, most helpful thing, right? Doing daddy put downs where he is, you know, getting them to bed at night. Lot of calendar sharing, a lot of, uh, like iPhone reminders. Oh yeah. Like, remind me in 20 minutes to do this, remind me in an hour to do this.
’cause sometimes for me, time transitions can be. Really difficult. And then also having, having, I had the support of my employer, which I think really helped too in like understanding of, hey, from February to May 3rd, things are gonna be a little bit nutty. And she, she gets it. So, yeah.
Julie: That’s awesome. How did you then take care of yourself, like mentally and emotionally while you were campaigning?
I mean, were there any mindset, like shifts that you had to do or like pep talks that helped you navigate criticism or burnout or just the, I mean, the everyday vulnerability of becoming a more public figure?
Laura: Yeah. It’s definitely not something I ever envisioned. For myself in that kind of way. Which is weird to say because I was an actor for, you know, a while.
But that’s, that’s different. That’s your, there’s a, I
Julie: totally agree. I think people are always surprised when I’m like, oh, I’m nervous to speak, or I’m nervous to do this. And they’re like, didn’t you like do musical theater and stuff? And I’m like, yeah, but you’re not like yourself. It’s just different. It’s so deeply different.
Laura: So deeply different. Yeah. So getting used to that. Man, did I like bomb our first like candidate forum? Because you know, you’re like, you’re getting back in the swing of like talking in front of humans and I’d never, yeah, I’d never ever done anything like this before. And, um, yeah, taking care of myself mentally.
Great question. Um, talk to my therapist ’cause. We’re still a work in progress, right? Like there is, there is still so much burnout. There is, and like, and I know that I’m doing it. You know what I like? I’m like, oh, you should really like take, take some time for yourself. And I’m like, but also you could go do this.
Project for an hour, you know, whatever. Okay. Yeah. So I, I will say like the navigating criticism, ’cause I think that that is something that a lot of people, it would make a lot of people feel nervous. Uh, I was, I was fortunate in that it didn’t, things didn’t get too ugly with myself. Like, I met, I met with my opponent before I filed to run and you know, it was like, you have, you have.
Kids, I have kids. I’m not doing this out of like, hate for you. It’s, or anything like that. And, and I very much respect you. Um, so let’s, you know, kind of try to keep it clean and that kind of thing. But there were certainly other moments where some candidates were not experie that level of kind of. Like mutual respect or niceties or whatever from kind of like peripheral people.
Uh, and then me being, me trying to get involved and like mediating that and recognizing, okay, you can’t, I can’t solve that. And, and getting advice of like, I. Run your own race, basically just kind of focus on yourself. ’cause that’s the thing that you can control. But it’s really hard because I, I think I probably have like a high justice sensitivity or something.
Yes. And so when I see something like that happening, I’m like, wait, wait, wait. That’s not fair. Like, that’s not, that’s not true. Or, you know, whatever. Um. I let that affect me emotionally and I think in the future, just remembering to, to run my own race and just kind of like focus in on what I can control, um, always helps.
Julie: I think that there’s something that keeps people out of running, especially women, which is imposter syndrome. Oh yeah. Your business couldn’t run without you. That’s a problem. A haunting your assistant from the beyond kind of problem. Enter the entrepreneur’s death folder. It’s your digital contingency plan.
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Did you have to rewrite any of those thoughts for yourself?
Laura: Yeah, no, a hundred percent I, well, first of all, I mean, imposter syndrome is so real and I don’t know that I’ll ever like not deal with that. And I think especially for women, we’re, we’re held to a different type of standard and you can really kind of see, see that on local levels, state levels, federal levels.
A lot of times I would remind myself like. You know, if Marjorie Taylor Greene could do this, like I could do this. You know what I mean? Like I like there are certain examples like that, that you could look at federally state, my
Julie: own state rep, that person with her ridiculous unearned confidence and the
Laura: unearned confidence.
Ab
Julie: absolute ignorance. A hundred percent. Yeah.
Laura: But
Julie: it’s
Laura: wild. If she can do it,
Julie: you know.
Laura: Like trying to, trying to tap into that and remind yourself, like, look at that. They don’t even realize, like, they just have that unearned confidence and like walk through life that way. So trying
Julie: to channel a little bit of that.
Um,
Laura: that’s what I always say
Julie: is that I have the unearned confidence of a white male senator.
Laura: I say I say that all the time. Yeah, all literally all the time. My own, my, my rep is Brandon Gill and I remind myself like Brandon Gill is doing this. You can do it. Like you, you can absolutely do this. But I think, I think what’s what’s still very much a challenge and what’s really real is that I have, I have two daughters and.
I remind them regularly to like, take up space and use their big girl voice and that kind of thing. And then I catch myself regularly not doing that. And like even, I’m only five foot tall, but like even physically making myself smaller and, you know, pictures and, and, and that kind of thing. And so trying to remember like they’re watching me constantly.
Constantly. Yeah. And so I, I, it’s really forced me to kind of try to grow in ways that I guess I wasn’t expecting. Um, which is, which is still really, really difficult. And I still feel myself, you know, shrinking or in, or in attempts to be like humble, you know? ’cause you have to be likable, you have to be whatever.
And so I’m like, I’m constantly downplaying. Accomplishments or your
Julie: accomplishments. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And it’s, and it’s, and you are an accomplished person and that’s, that feels unfair that you felt you had to do that.
Laura: Yeah, I, yeah. I mean, it’s. I, but it’s not unique to me. It’s, I, I, I will have this conversation, I feel like once a week with a different girlfriend where we’re, where we are just like boosting each other up and like reminding like, you’re a badass and you don’t need to sh you don’t need to shrink in those spaces because you deserve to be there.
But yeah, but then you have to remind yourself.
Julie: Which is not easy. No, never easy. I know that not everyone that’s listening right now wants to run for something, but a lot of people want to get involved and help. Somehow. So what are some realistic ways people can get involved locally, even if they only have, you know, an hour or two a month, or they’re not sure where to start?
What is one thing you wish more people knew that they were allowed to do? So, one
Laura: thing I wish more people knew is you can reach out, you can email your council person and your mayor, and they’re really. There they will respond to you. Um, there are. Every city has like boards and commissions that deal with different things.
Everything from the library board to planning and zoning. I’m on the parks and rec board right now, but like, um, so you can apply to those. I’m so Leslie Nvu. Of course you are. I know. What a queen. Uh, well, but then the thing is, is that you do have to, in addition to that, it does help to just send an email so that your counsel.
Your council persons get to know your name because there is like, there is value to name recognition and that was not something I did before running, and it’s absolutely something that, well, you don’t have to by any stretch of the meat like, but I would recommend. Trying to put yourself out there a little bit earlier than I did.
So boards and commissions. I will say like on a, on a state level and even federal level, we have elections coming up next year. A lot of those people have already announced. They’re running. Um, this past month there were a lot of kickoff, like campaign kickoffs, and those are people that need people to go knock on doors, which I know is scary or make phone calls, which is also scary.
Um, but text messaging a lot less scary. Postcard writing, a lot less scary. Also and then, and then this, this gets a bit more partisan, so slightly less local, but also very important for local. Your specific political party has precinct chairs. If you happen to be a Democrat, we desperately need precinct chairs.
There’s a ton of vacancies in every, every county, Denton, Dallas.
Julie: What does, what does that position do? I’ve never even heard of that.
Laura: So a precinct chair is, I mean, truly it’s you. You can give as much or as little time as you want. It’s a volunteer position. You’re essentially, uh. Just your precincts little advocates.
You like remind folks that there’s an election coming up. You help local candidates by organizing, you know, postcard, writing parties or you know, whatever else. Um, but again, it’s, it’s the time commitment is. As much or as little as you want. ’cause you’re volunteering. There’s much more extreme versions of precinct chairs that will be calling big time donors regularly and, and, and, and that kind of thing.
Um, but again, it’s, it’s a really, it’s a really, it’s. In my mind, easy way to get involved because it is so hyper-local. It’s just your precinct and you get to meet a lot of other folks doing what you wanna do, and then you learn about a lot of other ways to get involved.
Julie: I think whether someone wins or loses a race, campaigning can really change you.
So what did the. After of this experience looked like for you? Have you been able to take the time to rest and reflect or think about what staying involved means going forward? I did not rest
Laura: and reflect.
That’s fair. Um, yeah. Rest? No. Um, I, it was, I. Deeply enjoyed it. It was, it was. It’s still so, so much fun getting to meet a ton of residents, all different walks of life. So I stayed, I have stayed incredibly involved since then. There’s our city offers like a Citizens Government Academy, which I did. I had already done the Citizens Firefighter Academy, which was awesome.
That’s cool. I know I did. There’s like a metrocrest leadership. Program and um, I got a scholarship from the city
Julie: to participate in that. How do you find out about all these things? Like, so many of these things, like I just wouldn’t even know exist. I mean, is it just Googling? Is it just
Laura: asking a lot? Yeah, a lot of it.
Okay. So here’s what I will say is because I was somebody who was so deeply on the, I was on the peripheral, I was just observing local elections for a long time. A lot of it is through social media. A lot of it is through your local Facebook group, which as you know, can be. Such a hot mess. Not you, but like as, as you know, as people know, uh, yeah, those neighborhood groups can be, uh, awful.
Julie: They are delicious though, to sit back and watch
Laura: Oh, so delicious. So I like, you know, she loves her drama, so I. I deeply, that’s probably the main reason I still have a Facebook is those neighborhood groups. Um, but that’s how I started to like, learn about these things and then kind of piece it together.
Had I been more brave or extroverted at the time, I would like if I would’ve reached out to former council people or current council people sooner, I think I would’ve learned about more opportunities as, as. Well, like Metro leadership, I didn’t, it’s one of those things that’s like, if you know, you know, and it’s like, it’s like a badge of whatever Yeah.
To have completed it. But I didn’t, that was a, that was a new thing to me. So yeah, it does, it just, it kind of snowballs and if you’re really into it like I am, you can hyper focus and hyperfocus and just learn about all this stuff that I never knew that I would be so deeply into.
Julie: I love that. Remember everyone, you don’t even have to run for office to make a difference.
You just have to care enough to show up. Oh, for sure. Even if it’s awkward at first. All right, Laura. Tell everyone where they can find you online how they can learn more about your advocacy.
Laura: Oh, that’s sweet. Um, Laura for carrollton.com is not updated. Uh, but it it will be, I do plan on running again at some point.
Heck yes.
Julie: Or I should say, I might, I might. I’m gonna go to another rally. Your speech was so moving. Oh, that’s really sweet. The one that you had at that restaurant, I mean, you had multiple, but the one that my husband and I could to at the restaurant. No,
Laura: that’s, that was really, really sweet of you. Um, that was a windy day that like threw me off.
Uh, but yeah, sorry. So Laura for carrollton.com, but really go to your, go to your city’s website is kind of what I would much rather recommend and look for your local leaders and that’s, that’s where you can see how you can get better involved.
Julie: I love that. All right. Today’s shutdown is actually gonna stay on topic for once.
Oh, and we are gonna do a lightning round of local civic favorites. All right, Laura, no thinking. Just answer. What is the most satisfying city improvement? A pothole fixed, a new park, or a repaved road, a pothole fixed. No repaid road.
If your city had a mascot, what would it be and why? Oh, an otter. Ooh. What is a local event you would never miss? Text Fest. Okay. What is one civic issue, you know, way too much about now?
Laura: Oh no, this is hard. Uh, right now, short-term rentals.
Julie: Ooh. Alright. What are your top three fictional and political TV characters.
And they’re, and they’re political or, or involved in politics in some way?
Laura: Oh, there’s too many, right? Because like President Bartlett, oh my goodness, CJ and right West Wing, everyone West Wing. Love it. Um, parks and Rec is very obvious. Like I am Leslie Knope. I am like so obnoxious, but my heart’s in the right place.
Uh, and, and, and Ron, you know, Ron Swanson, obviously. Oh God. Oh the Newsroom. If you ever watched that. Jeff Daniels, what’s his character? Um, I dunno what his
Julie: character’s name is.
Laura: I know. I can’t think of it.
Julie: I really loved the newsroom though. That was a great show to you. I think I’d have to throw in some Olivia Pope from Scandal.
Oh my God. From there. Oh my God.
Laura: Olivia Pope. Okay. Unpopular opinion though I’m not, I I am not like a fits stan necessarily. Like him in general,
Julie: or them as a couple? Uh, maybe them as a couple. That’s fair. I do think that their chemistry was, I mean, it was electric. It was something to behold, like as an acting study.
Laura: For sure. Yeah. But I also think I like, I think she could have chemistry with anybody, you know? She was incredible. That’s true. She’s truly incredible. But I did, I like when we got married, I got my Olivia Pope wine glasses, like I registered for those, so I got Oh, another fun fact. Like you, you were my wedding planner.
Um, yes guys, I planned Lauren Brock’s wedding. Yeah, absolutely. I think like when
Julie: that was. Almost 10 years. No, it was 10 years ago now. Yeah, yeah. 10 years ago now.
Laura: But yeah, no, so I, I mean, I loved watching Scandal with my, with my wine and my popcorn. Literally. I mean, truly, that’s how I would do it, and I loved it.
Taking Dan to the next level. I love
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